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- From: dale@giskard.demon.co.uk (Dale Shuttleworth)
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- Subject: Re: v34 speed on txt files???
- Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 19:45:08 GMT
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- Hi,
-
- Ed Starry (estarry@oro.net) wrote:
-
- [...]
-
- : 8.4 KByte * 1,024 = 8,600 bytes = 86,000 bps / 14,400 = 5.97:1, I think!
- :
- : 5.97:1 for LAPM transfer, divided by 2 for comparison to MNP = 2.98:1
- : compression ratio. Would be 3:1 if I were using MNP, 'But I'm Not'. Remember
- : this was the max. rate observed. 7 Kbyte/sec would be 4.98:1 and dropped
- : down to MNP would be 2.49:1. Does 2.5:1 look better? If I were *stuck* with
- : a MNP connection then 3,000-3,500 cps would be the norm for text using
- : everyday minimal compression. Full compression would be nearer 6,000 cps for
- : MNP and 12,000 cps for LAPM.
-
- Err, MNP and LAPM are simply who different compression standards. One
- may achieve slightly better compression than the other under particular
- circumstances but this is not predictable with out knowing what data
- you are compressing. For most data there is not likely to be a factor
- of two difference. Most of the calculations in the paragraph above are
- meaningless.
-
- : There are the MNP compliant modems that people take for granted as being the
- : top of the food chain. 'Not So', there are LAPM compliant modems that
- : support (8:1) compression, 14.4/115,200 and 28.8/230,400. They will step
- : down to MNP (4:1) if that's what the other end is but 1st choice is to use
- : LAPM algorithms for error correction and compression. My ISP uses 28.8-LAPM
- : (8:1) modems and I connect at 14400/115200.
-
- "LAPM modems" (i.e. modems which support V42bis - most of them) support
- the LAPM compression protocol. This will usually give from 1:1 (i.e.
- none) to 50:1 (or more) compression depending on the data you are
- transmitting. The 4:1 ratio is meaningless except for a specific ITU-T
- test file.
-
- I suspect you have got the 8:1 compression claims from Hayes advertising.
- Again, this is a ratio for a particular test file and bears no relation
- to the transmission rate you are likely to get in real life.
-
- : I use an Intel 14.4 SatisFaxtion 400/internal with a 115,200 bps rating. Has
- : two 1,024 byte I/O caching buffers to keep the UART humming along error free
- : at high speed. This modems serial port is cached like a good CD-ROM drive
- : is. I too did my homework before buying this specific make and model.
-
- Of course, it is now out of date since V34 has come along - I hope you
- didn't buy it recently :-) What incidentally does a "caching buffer"
- do? - this doesn't make sense to me.
-
- : There are a number of 28.8 modems both internal and external that support
- : 230,400 bps (8:1) compression. Finding software that supports over 115,200
- : is the hard part for single users. Trumpet stops at 115,200 bps, as do most
- : commercial Comm packages, ProCom, WinCommPro, etc.
-
- They may support that serial port speed and that compression ratio, but
- (1) standard PC serial ports do not go faster the 115200bps and (2)
- anyone getting that kind of compression should be looking at compressing
- off-line.
-
- : Re: The 10 KByte/sec rate of someone's that you initially questioned. Two
- : 28.8-LAPM modems should be able to do this quite easily. In fact, this rate
- : is really on the 'low side'. One, or both, probably has a configuration
- : problem.
-
- For English text, you would expect a compression of around 2.5:1. This
- will give a data transfer rate of about 8kbytes/sec. Any more probably
- means that the text is *really* boring :-)
-
- Dale.
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